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Post by fastwalker on Oct 18, 2004 17:02:25 GMT -5
Posted by: gump90 In reply to: None Date:10/18/2004 3:15:02 PM Post #of 18391 Oh Oh !!!!! It's starting to smell ROLL - BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or Reverse Split as you Yanks like to say it. Would this mean that Urban is a liar I seem to recall topo frothing at the mouth about a roll-back. NOT GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Or is it ??]. Stay tooned .. as in Loonie.
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Post by fastwalker on Oct 18, 2004 17:03:59 GMT -5
Posted by: narvo In reply to: gump90 who wrote msg# 18359 Date:10/18/2004 4:40:22 PM Post #of 18391 Hey GUMP90. To me a r/s is nothing to me ( I could careless and I think it is a psychological thingymagigy thing) and makes cents. Hey as long as we have value for our share price! glty reply....to the above.. Posted by: gump90 In reply to: narvo who wrote msg# 18386 Date:10/18/2004 5:02:38 PM Post #of 18391 Not quite right narvo. The rationale from the co. viewpoint is that as a company matures without being really successful at anything it usually ends up with a s**t load of stock issued and oodles of disgruntled shareholders and a very low share price.. To get the share price moving up again becomes a REAL problem .. too much stock issued to let it be manipulated easily. Hence a HUGE roll back is done. Now the disgruntled shareholders have less shares and the manipulation can begin again. Chances are the company will continue to be unsuccessful and more and more of the new shares will get rolled out into the market place over time thereby starting the same downward price spiral as was just gone through. 8-)Guys in case it gets started, we need to keep an eye open for more such things and answer them as they pop up....
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Post by fastwalker on Oct 18, 2004 17:20:59 GMT -5
Posted by: branfordjohn In reply to: sapstar who wrote msg# 18361 Date:10/18/2004 3:43:48 PM Post #of 18393 Guys: The Reverse Split scare has already been tried on RB many, many times. Some are just letting it spill over here. I find it hard to believe on 3 counts: 1.) Based on the fact of all the companies we are intertwining with, its obvious the financial plan has been in the works for almost a year now, and it sounds like Urban recognizes that Roger has been at the helm for most of the time. Such a plan is not a last minute thing (it takes months to get these things set up and reviewed by Corp. Lawyers)and not involve PR after PR like we've been getting recently, about to break into good news after all these years, invite thousands of people to come meet him personally and then all of a sudden say at the last couple of days Urban or Roger says "Whoops!! Hey, let's do a reverse split" Roger would have forseen all possibilities along his plan, not to need to fall back on one of the most dispicable ways out for a Pink Sheet Company. 2.) Once you are interweaving your valuation with other companies and linking shares like we are doing, doing an RS is not a good business decision for your partners. 3.) All the talk, even if some by Melvin, was "No RS!!" Urban doesn't seem the type to advertise CMKX at all the races, hospitals, etc. and then Urban says "Oh, by the way, you know those 10 million shares you just bought, well, ahem, you've only got a couple thousand now". Guys, its obvious this is just another MM ploy. Let's show a little better fortitude than some of the posters are showing. Thanks.
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Post by liquidator on Oct 18, 2004 17:30:58 GMT -5
That post has basher written all over it. I certainly haven't seen anything that indicates that a R/S is even being considered at this point. Our arrangement with all the acquisitions and stock being exchanged would suffer seriously if a R/S was done, especially the SGGM deal. Not gonna happen.
IMO Liquidator
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Post by IQ on Oct 18, 2004 18:48:03 GMT -5
For those that have been on this board for a long time, this is a bunch of huwee. If the moderator can please delete those types of posts that would be appreciated.
We know very well as it has been indicated in PR's, by CEO, etc that this is not going to happen. Are the MM's getting that desperate to cover? lol
;D ;D ;D
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Post by saturn48021 on Oct 18, 2004 19:05:28 GMT -5
Yeah but how else can we have fun.Watching people make up stuff is entertaining in itself.Laugh a little.
Saturn
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Post by liquidator on Oct 18, 2004 21:54:48 GMT -5
It's really starting to get thick, seems to me a group of people seems to be getting pretty despirate at this late hour in the unfolding saga which is the CMKX experience. The next couple of weeks should bring some hilarious antics by some despirately depraived individuals. Anybody bring popcorn?
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Post by fastwalker on Oct 18, 2004 22:58:29 GMT -5
Hey guys...the point of the post, is not to incite a riot..it is simply to alert others on the board what is going on around us...if we don't know what others are yapping about...we'll spend more time quelling the rumor than simply looking at it now... A little battle field wisdom.... If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
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Post by GMN on Oct 19, 2004 9:28:23 GMT -5
Thank you fastwalker and others, I'm a newbie to writing, but I have been reading all for the last 8 months. My dad always talk me that if you can't say something intelligent then don't say anything. I have thought a great deal about a R/S and I agree that it would not be beneficial to all involved especially recent partners. We must all keep the faith in UC and Roger that their plan is much more involved and done with specific timing and deliberate PRs to correct N/S. He may be trying to work with some MMs to cover and trying to keep this out of the courtroom. Just my opinion, no intelligence involved. GMN
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Post by azesm on Oct 19, 2004 10:00:32 GMT -5
Good point, nice to see you posting, GMN (or...)!
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Post by WorkAHolic on Oct 19, 2004 10:18:10 GMT -5
Hey guys...the point of the post, is not to incite a riot..it is simply to alert others on the board what is going on around us...if we don't know what others are yapping about...we'll spend more time quelling the rumor than simply looking at it now... A little battle field wisdom.... If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle. Hey fastwalker, How can you post a new thread like that and NOT put your comments on that post? The way you presented it was very misleading. I, for one, feel like you did that on purpose to create some sort of doubting. You cover by quoting battlefied "wisdom". I welcome most theories and adverse thought, but that post was, IMO, a blatant attempt to put fear in the stockholders. You could have made a comment on the statement and/or indicated the context it was written in, but no, you post it like this was "Big News". I'm confuse as to who made which statement and who is responding. Are your thoughts on any of these posts? If it was an honest mistake, then all if forgiven. However, for you to do this and sit back and wait for comments shows me your real colors.
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Post by azesm on Oct 19, 2004 10:55:54 GMT -5
WorkAHolic, in case you were joking: HA-HA-HA!
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Post by fastwalker on Oct 19, 2004 11:43:40 GMT -5
Hey fastwalker, How can you post a new thread like that and NOT put your comments on that post? The way you presented it was very misleading. I, for one, feel like you did that on purpose to create some sort of doubting. You cover by quoting battlefield "wisdom". I welcome most theories and adverse thought, but that post was, IMO, a blatant attempt to put fear in the stockholders. You could have made a comment on the statement and/or indicated the context it was written in, but no, you post it like this was "Big News". I'm confuse as to who made which statement and who is responding. Are your thoughts on any of these posts? If it was an honest mistake, then all if forgiven. However, for you to do this and sit back and wait for comments shows me your real colors. Actually workaholic, there wasn't any malice intended, it was merely, as the title explained rumors..... for all to review and decide on their own..not as you put it..to "scare the share holders"... Cover by quoting "battlefield quotes," obviously these gems were not interpreted correctly by you...but then thats ok..at least you are aware of them..that is a start.. I'm flattered, thanks for including me with others around the boards, whose comments are truly noteworthy.......but in all honesty...I never post, or at least I try not to post too many commentaries and when I do.....it isn't an ego trip ..........my comments are simply that.... comments and I feel that they should not carry any more value to swing an opinion, than some one who has just started posting and had questions and used their own judgment and DD, to arrive at a place where they are comfortable.... As in the following post about the R/S in which a member comments on the same post..... "Thank you fastwalker and others, I'm a newbie to writing, but I have been reading all for the last 8 months. My dad always talk me that if you can't say something intelligent then don't say anything. I have thought a great deal about a R/S and I agree that it would not be beneficial to all involved especially recent partners. We must all keep the faith in UC and Roger that their plan is much more involved and done with specific timing and deliberate PRs to correct N/S. He may be trying to work with some MMs to cover and trying to keep this out of the courtroom. Just my opinion, no intelligence involved." GMN Actually the first sign that the poster is intelligent and does think for himself, is that here was a question one which he had an opinion on, or doubt about and since it was presented / asked/ put forward.. in this forum, he could draw a conclusion and arrived at a logical place where he felt comfortable...I like that process..... As to your comments about my "true colors"...sorry , I don't get motivated by challenges...again that would be ego driven.....and while I could respond in kind...I would be responding to a comment that will waste more of the member's time, than this response already has.....by removing the focus from our true objective.."CMKX." But just in case you are really wondering what my "true colors are"..... newcmkx.proboards33.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1098121944So, in conclusion, it was not an honest mistake..it was posted for a reason and as I said, it will be moved after a sufficient amount of time and pasted in a "rumor" section..which is where it belongs and I hope Mal will make such a section for us soon...lol...hello Mal.... ;D Without the usage of a..."lol," I assume your comments were meant to be addressed seriously...so , I'll add one more thing from the post, which I trust, will also illuminate my "true colors."..... "Hey guys...the point of the post, is not to incite a riot..it is simply to alert others on the board what is going on around us...if we don't know what others are yapping about...we'll spend more time quelling the rumor than simply looking at it now..." I do appreciate your commentary and I'm glad that you posted and shared your thoughts...that is why we are all here to benefit from our shared experience and knowledge on our favorite subject...CMKX BTW, my response here is not to "put you down in any way," do not assume that....my response is merely indicative of my style of DD, when I pursue an issue or matter...which most here know by now is the way I work, when I feel the matter needs clarification, but at the same time, I still try to remain neutral. Thanks....
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Post by WorkAHolic on Oct 19, 2004 11:52:27 GMT -5
azesm,
I did not like the way the post was presented. I thought it was misleading. Maybe I'm the only one that thought that.
I apologize if I offended anyone. Since I come to the board only a couple of times a day, I may not have been in tune to the thought process of the post.
I do apologize to fastwalker if he took a offense. I guess we're all a bit anxious and with all of the negative stocklemon etc. posts, I expected and wish something like this would have been posted with a bit more sensitivity.
I'm a 2 year stockholder in this stock and own a nice chuck of it. I am long and very strong. I follow about 5 boards on a regular basis and think that this one is excellent. You guys have a tough job and are excellent in the way you run this board.
I'm glad you got a good laugh out of it.
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Post by Where be the money at? on Oct 19, 2004 11:55:08 GMT -5
relax cant r/s nss they cant not posible... i am not worried... be cool relax... all i can say is hold ignore rumor...
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