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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 15:13:48 GMT -5
This is what I am talking about. This is from a board that this person does not even post on. But they give him/her high credit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Why would he send it from a yahoo account. This is totally fake. « Last Edit: Today at 3:37pm by CDLIC » Logged mjmilam Diamond Hunter member is offline Email PM Gender: Female Posts: 35 Re: ANDY EMAIL A HOAX [Maybe] I disagree, Hunter, Dr. Larry Ross is a well respected and credible professional. I know him and it would be hard for someone to fool him. IMO MJ Maybe some others are starting to add 2 and 2.
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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 15:21:16 GMT -5
Now this is the kind of stuff this e-mail is causing: From another board FWIW: But I repeat if Andy did say this. He must go. I hope he is not that stupid ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: New long message from Andy IF this is, in fact, a legitimate email from Andy, I would expect that the next PR includes the announcement of a new IR person. When I first read the post, I was livid, ready to sell, etc. Then I remembered how many times we have seen warnings about the extent that some people will go to shake loose our shares. (We've already seen one example today, if the poster was forthright). IMO as a former accountant (and still in the area of finance), I don't understand what the attorneys have to do with the audits other than review them for SEC compliance issues. How many times can that be done? It is my belief that all of the 2003 and most of the 2004 quarters have been fully audited for some time and reviewed and the final touches are being put on the 2004 year end report. Unless there is some compelling reason that we can't phathom, I would expect to see filings starting to appear on Edgar fairly soon. As has been pointed out here, they did not have to file the 15a until they were confident of being able to produce the necessary documents ina timely manner. I don't think they would take a chance on the SEC granting them extensions and botch nearly a years worth of work. I, for one, am taking this as a "weekend rumor" until proven otherwise. CMKX long and strong. Lynn
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Post by Warren on Feb 20, 2005 15:24:56 GMT -5
I may of jumped to soon as I am begining to beleive this email was a well made up hoax. Praying that it was.
Will have to wait and wee.
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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 15:29:32 GMT -5
;D ;D
Other boards now are starting to question this. The poster of the info has not come back and defended his e-mail yet. Now with all of us working togeather we can get to the truth. I will not rule out that this person got sent a hoax e-mail. Either three things are happening here. He is telling the truth, lying or got a fack e-mail. We will know before long
. ;D ;D
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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 15:32:16 GMT -5
;D ;D Warren: I jump very quickly also. But I am trying to correct myself of doing that. But it is dang hard. But if true (which I hope its not) Andy will have to find a new job.
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Post by SnoopDogg23 on Feb 20, 2005 16:23:58 GMT -5
Guys... Andy Hill would never refer to Roger Glenn as "RG" or the law firm as "SLG". Not to mention using the acronym "IMO".
This Larry guy is an idiot, let's not be fooled by one.
Case closed. Don't waste more of your life on this...
Snoop
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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 16:44:54 GMT -5
Snoop: I can not let this go until I know the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But I might not be able to handle the truth. But since I brought this subject over to this board. I must keep all updated to its correctness. Hope you understand. From another board FWIW: Complete BS. Andy has stated he wont respond to shareholders via e-mail. For this exact reason. Anything he writes immediately gets posted here and every where else on the internet. By the time people are done disecting it, the message is twisted. My vote is BS!! Everytime I have e-maled him a question, he responds with "call me to discuss anything regarding CMKX". This person has 581 post on that board.
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Post by liquidator on Feb 20, 2005 17:07:39 GMT -5
One thing strikes me as odd, several weeks ago we were told in some of the "I talked to Andy" post's that the financials were done and just waiting for RG and UC to sign off on them. Now were told nothing has been done in that area in this e-mail. I also recall Andy stating that he prefers to use the phone rather than e-mail and this is the first e-mail I recall hearing from Andy. Bart I think you did the right thing in bringing this to the board, whether it is real or a fake it deserves our attention. I'm banking on it being a fake.
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Post by joey01 on Feb 20, 2005 17:37:24 GMT -5
The "E-Mail from Andy" is way out of character for Andy Hill. I do not believe he wrote it for numerous reasons. However, I do not want to go into detail to give the "Basher" some writing tips for the future.
Now, if I am wrong, then Andy is having a really bad day he no longer deserves to hold the IR position.
Hang in there all...........we are almost home.
Joey01
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Post by Warren on Feb 20, 2005 19:22:10 GMT -5
Do not worry about jumping to soon on this one Bart. It looked very credible and there was alot of good original posts, sort of praising the idea of letting them do their job, similar to the PR.
I am also not to fond of Andy, though I never spoke to him personelly. I have seen alot of unprofesional behavior from him.
So I to jumped to conclusions and you are right if he put this email out, I would concour that Andy should be tared and feathered. If this email is true and the lawyers did file with out having every thing ready to go, then we should tare and feather them as well. Then we will have an excuse for needing an extension with the SEC as we can tell them our lawyers flew the coop.
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Post by fastwalker on Feb 20, 2005 20:53:33 GMT -5
Hey guys, well I’ve mediated enough (actually wife and I went to dinner…lol). As usual, BS abounds on these boards and usually include the antics of some nimrod. I’ve said before… “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity''
While I’m not a big Andy fan, I would assume he is attached to a lease, that precludes him from making statements like..
“SLG has smartly approached the SEC right at the beginning and said they may need longer than 60 days to get CMKX squared away with all the information required to get us back to full compliance. Appears the SEC is prepared to go along with this request, so SLG is going to get at it as fast as they can and we will have to see how we do. Shareholders can accept this explanation or not, but the variance has been granted. “
Even if the e-mail is from Andy... and the extension is true... I don’t see how we can avoid filing the 10K by the deadline? Someone enlighten me…
Guys, why would they “amend” form 15 , if they were not ready to file? I think that “lying,” misleading, deceptive statements are still frowned upon by the SEC… Ms. Stewart can attest to that…<br> Forget all the other stuff…the 10K has the most current information…it’s really the one we want anyhow…
Personally, I could care less what Andy says.. or doesn't’t say for that matter. I’ve always held, that unless it’s in a PR, it just doesn't’t mean zip…nada, nothing.
Besides, if Andy was not clever enough to add in “his email,” that this release of information had Robert Mahue's blessing, then it’s probably a fake, or if real, without Mahue’s blessing…well then old Andy will be looking for a new job…lol
Now, I return you to your regular programming…lol, what to do when we are all rich…lol
8-)fw
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Post by Bart on Feb 20, 2005 22:12:10 GMT -5
;D ;D
From George Burns:
This Andy extension BS... Even if the e-mail from Andy is from Andy... and the extension or what he called "variance" is true... We still have to file the 10K by the deadline.
It would be one of the dumbest decisions in the history of the company if they knew they were not ready to file the 10K and they ammended the Form 15.
And the most recent filing will be the 10K... and that 10K has the most current information and it is really the only one that matters for people deciding where to put their money.
If we are an accelerated filer: 16 March 05 for a 10-K for the year ending 31 December 04
If not, then 31 March 05 for a 10-KSB for the year ending 31 December 04
I don't think Andy should say crap. I think he is going to be removed soon... if that e-mail was from him and he continues down that path of releasing information that he shouldn't.
He needs to stop with the opinions.
;D ;D
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Post by stevpot99 on Feb 20, 2005 22:51:00 GMT -5
here is his reply
Yep it is from me and I asked Larry to facilitate it as he is a good guy who delivered it straight up to you and everyone else. The message would have been the same if I had used the cmkxir addy. I get stuff from Larry about posts, etc. so I simply replied to one of his emails and I was just getting fed up with some of the wrong info. being talked about on the boards. Ciao.
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Post by stevpot99 on Feb 20, 2005 22:51:46 GMT -5
any mods that would like the full email pm me
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Post by fastwalker on Feb 20, 2005 23:01:19 GMT -5
Hey guys, what a switch...lol..usually it's rumors started by #32, that makes it rounds... check it out... cmkxdiamond.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1108950393"Andy e-mail a fake: Must Read ( modified)" If you go to proboards 35: CMKX unofficial Message Board cmkx.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=generalThe original thread was started there. The topic of the thread is: To prove a point only....NOT REAL by HndtoHnd. Hnd says he made it up to prove a point. Just thought I would share to hopefully stop spec, and phone calls to poor Andy tommorow. Now I find this exact same message on 1 million millionaires, but it's addressed to LRoss34470. Supposedly it was originally posted on RB by LRoss34470. I think one of the mods should do some DD on this. « Last Edit: Today at 9:42pm by tpa6771 » Logged reply.... Geez! people really need to grow up! and Makes one wonder what the _REAL_ purpose for the existance of board 35 is now.... Some of us have known what "35" was all about for a long time now. ImFishin should be there. Here's some logic...duh... just so you know, the original andy email was posted on rb before the one on board 35, this guy hnd just changed around the name to his and called it a fake... so the original email was most likely real. ......uh? any way... I’ve mediated enough (actually wife and I went to dinner…lol)...fw As usual, BS abounds on these boards and usually include the antics of some nimrod. why #32 wnats to give #35 all the credit is unsual, since they take credit for everything else...lol I’ve said before… “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity'' and besides that quote, I also like John Wayne's one which simply says...."Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid." lol While I’m not a big Andy fan, I would assume he is attached to a leash, that precludes him from making statements like.. “SLG has smartly approached the SEC right at the beginning and said they may need longer than 60 days to get CMKX squared away with all the information required to get us back to full compliance. Appears the SEC is prepared to go along with this request, so SLG is going to get at it as fast as they can and we will have to see how we do. Shareholders can accept this explanation or not, but the variance has been granted. “ Even if the e-mail is from Andy... and I find that hard to fathom, or the bit about the extension... I don’t see how we can avoid filing the 10K by the deadline? Someone enlighten me…if that is isn't true? Guys, why would "CMKX" “amend” form 15 , if they were not ready to file? I think that “lying,” misleading, deceptive statements are still frowned upon by the SEC… ..Ms. Stewart can attest to that…! Personally, I could care less what Andy says.. or doesn't say for that matter. I’ve always held, that unless it’s in a PR..... it just doesn'tt mean zip…nada, nothing. Besides, if Andy was not clever enough to add in “his email”.... that this release of information had Robert Mahue's blessing......then it’s probably a fake. Or if real without Mahue’s blessing…well then old Andy will be looking for a new job…or a horse head under the sheets...lol Now, I return you to your regular programming…lol, what to do when we are all rich…lol fw
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