Post by fastwalker on Sept 23, 2004 23:03:20 GMT -5
By: greensmachines2003
23 Sep 2004, 10:19 PM EDT
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Houstontex
THanks but I cannot take the credit. It is a piece I picked up from www. intradersnation. com--
It sure makes one think though. Wish I was savvy enough to realize that before I bought NNOS when the Market Makers were distributing shares. I was a sucker then even though I thought I was seasoned a bit. I think I am a bit more wise now, and hope that I can take advantaage of what knowledge I now have in regards to the Market Makers and Specialists and their actions. I hope that helsp you too.
Here is another along those lines
Richard Ney on the Role of the Specialist
by Michael Templain, a fellow Bender
Fred Jacquot, the big Bender, le Gros Ventre as it were, has asked me to
provide a better, if somewhat longer, explanation of the writings of Richard
Ney; a task I am happy to perform.
"The story is told that after he had been deported to Italy, Lucky Luciano
granted an interview in which he described a visit to the floor of the New
York Stock Exchange. When the operations of floor specialists had been
explained to him, he said, 'A terrible thing happened. I realized I'd joined
the wrong mob'" (1Ney, 8).
It was with these words that Richard Ney began his first of three books on
the nature of the New York Stock Exchange. Ney wrote over 20 years ago, a
time when a 750 Dow was high and today's volumes were beyond imagining. Some
of his material is dated, and must be read in the light in which it was
written. But the main premise of his books is still true: that the
specialist exists not to ensure the free and orderly trade of stock in a
particular company, but to fatten upon the innocence and ignorance of the
small investor.
The New York Stock Exchange is not an auction market (2Ney, 86), though many
investors still hold onto that image. It is a rigged market. Volume is an
effect of price. Prices are controlled absolutely by the specialists, the
'market makers' in individual stocks. It was this discovery that led Mr. Ney
to eventually give us small investors a priceless gift: enlightenment.
"Studying the transactions in each stock, I became immediately conscious
that, on too many occasion to be a coincidence, a stock would advance from
its morning low and then, often during the afternoon, would show an up-tick
of a half-point or more on a large block of anywhere from 1,500 to 5,000 or
more shares. This transaction seemed to herald a transformation in what was
taking place, for immediately thereafter the stock would begin to drop like
Newton's apple. Before I could find out what caused this, another question
presented itself: What caused the same thing to happen at the low point in
that stock's decline? For it was also apparent that a block of stock of the
same size often appeared on a down-tick of a half-point or more, after which
the stock quickly rallied. Together these two facts seemed to give a stock's
pattern continuity. At the end of several days of investigation, I
discovered that these transactions at the top and bottom of a stock's price
pattern were for the specialist's own account. ... Clod that I was, I had at
last recognized that, although the study of human nature may not be
fashionable among economists, it is never out of season" (2Ney, 9).
The specialist is part of a system. First, he is part of that rare
fraternity of men who are all specialists in an exchange. It is a small
private club, to whose membership one can only be born. The specialists of
the Dow 30 exhibit the spirit of 'all for one, and one for all'. If one of
the 30 is having problems, the other 29 wait for him, before they move onto
their next agreed upon campaign (2Ney, 172). The rest of the specialists
take their lead from watching the Dow 30.
But the system is more extensive and more powerful than just the
specialists. The specialists are the heart of the exchange. The exchange, in
turn, has practical control of the major corporations, banks, insurance
companies, and brokerage houses in this country. These, in turn, influence
news reporting and the regulatory agencies.
More...
23 Sep 2004, 10:19 PM EDT
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Houstontex
THanks but I cannot take the credit. It is a piece I picked up from www. intradersnation. com--
It sure makes one think though. Wish I was savvy enough to realize that before I bought NNOS when the Market Makers were distributing shares. I was a sucker then even though I thought I was seasoned a bit. I think I am a bit more wise now, and hope that I can take advantaage of what knowledge I now have in regards to the Market Makers and Specialists and their actions. I hope that helsp you too.
Here is another along those lines
Richard Ney on the Role of the Specialist
by Michael Templain, a fellow Bender
Fred Jacquot, the big Bender, le Gros Ventre as it were, has asked me to
provide a better, if somewhat longer, explanation of the writings of Richard
Ney; a task I am happy to perform.
"The story is told that after he had been deported to Italy, Lucky Luciano
granted an interview in which he described a visit to the floor of the New
York Stock Exchange. When the operations of floor specialists had been
explained to him, he said, 'A terrible thing happened. I realized I'd joined
the wrong mob'" (1Ney, 8).
It was with these words that Richard Ney began his first of three books on
the nature of the New York Stock Exchange. Ney wrote over 20 years ago, a
time when a 750 Dow was high and today's volumes were beyond imagining. Some
of his material is dated, and must be read in the light in which it was
written. But the main premise of his books is still true: that the
specialist exists not to ensure the free and orderly trade of stock in a
particular company, but to fatten upon the innocence and ignorance of the
small investor.
The New York Stock Exchange is not an auction market (2Ney, 86), though many
investors still hold onto that image. It is a rigged market. Volume is an
effect of price. Prices are controlled absolutely by the specialists, the
'market makers' in individual stocks. It was this discovery that led Mr. Ney
to eventually give us small investors a priceless gift: enlightenment.
"Studying the transactions in each stock, I became immediately conscious
that, on too many occasion to be a coincidence, a stock would advance from
its morning low and then, often during the afternoon, would show an up-tick
of a half-point or more on a large block of anywhere from 1,500 to 5,000 or
more shares. This transaction seemed to herald a transformation in what was
taking place, for immediately thereafter the stock would begin to drop like
Newton's apple. Before I could find out what caused this, another question
presented itself: What caused the same thing to happen at the low point in
that stock's decline? For it was also apparent that a block of stock of the
same size often appeared on a down-tick of a half-point or more, after which
the stock quickly rallied. Together these two facts seemed to give a stock's
pattern continuity. At the end of several days of investigation, I
discovered that these transactions at the top and bottom of a stock's price
pattern were for the specialist's own account. ... Clod that I was, I had at
last recognized that, although the study of human nature may not be
fashionable among economists, it is never out of season" (2Ney, 9).
The specialist is part of a system. First, he is part of that rare
fraternity of men who are all specialists in an exchange. It is a small
private club, to whose membership one can only be born. The specialists of
the Dow 30 exhibit the spirit of 'all for one, and one for all'. If one of
the 30 is having problems, the other 29 wait for him, before they move onto
their next agreed upon campaign (2Ney, 172). The rest of the specialists
take their lead from watching the Dow 30.
But the system is more extensive and more powerful than just the
specialists. The specialists are the heart of the exchange. The exchange, in
turn, has practical control of the major corporations, banks, insurance
companies, and brokerage houses in this country. These, in turn, influence
news reporting and the regulatory agencies.
More...